If Your Teen Is Out of School, You’re Not Alone

Sometimes I think…what did I do wrong? And sometimes I think…Hashem sent this challenge specially for us. One mother shares the conflicting thoughts of parenting a struggling teen who’s been in and out of yeshiva.

Editor’s Note: While this isn’t the format of a usual Between Carpools post, we felt that the honesty contained here is something that is important to share. There are so many people who will find chizzuk in knowing that they are not alone in their emotions and experiences, whether it’s a child who is out of school or a different struggle.
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Sometimes I think:

What did we do wrong as parents? Why is everyone else in his class doing okay? Where did my endlessly curious boy who loved learning go?

And sometimes I think:

School is a fictional construct, the system isn’t going to work for everyone, maybe my kid has good taste by opting out.

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Sometimes I think:

What is going to be with him? Will he ever hold down a job? Be able to get married?

Have a family? Not feel totally burned by Yiddishkeit?


And sometimes I think:

The coolest adults dropped out of school and my kid is sweet and kind, he’ll be a great adult, we just have to hold on and believe in him.

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Sometimes I think:

Is it too much to ask to just want to be home alone for a change? I thought by this stage with no toddlers I’d be able to have a regular, normal morning routine. I really want a morning routine that’s not interrupted.


And sometimes I think:

I’m so grateful he’s doing this now and not at 22 or 32 and that both my husband and I have job flexibility so we can be there for him.

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Sometimes I think:

My heart is breaking from watching him struggle and watching the whole family impacted by him and his struggles.


And sometimes I think:

We all will be so much more compassionate towards others after going through this.

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Sometimes I think:

How much money have we been spending on professional help???


And sometimes I think:

At least it’s not like last year when we were paying for Ubers back and forth and bribing him and paying for therapy and also tuition.

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Sometimes I think:

We’re so alone in this struggle, why don’t people (family, friends, neighbors, classmates’ parents, his rebbe) reach out with a kind word?


And sometimes I think:

There are so many other families dealing with this now. When people innocently ask, “So what yeshiva is your son in?” and I say “Oh, he’s in between right now,” more often than not I hear some version of “My sister-in-law is dealing with that too! My niece has been out of school for months now, she’s losing her mind.”

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Sometimes I think:

There HAS to be a silver bullet. We just haven’t found it yet— a therapist or medicine or alternative healing— that will turn this around. I need to fix this. I can’t see a path forward and I need one.

And sometimes I think:

There’s no silver bullet. Hashem has put us on this journey and we have to keep on looking for the next right thing to do to help him. It’s not the end of the story.

Anonymous is the tired and proud mother of a wonderful teenage boy who has been in and out of yeshiva for the last four years.

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44 responses to “If Your Teen Is Out of School, You’re Not Alone”

  1. LK Avatar
    LK

    Dear awesome, amazing anonymous mother,
    Thank you for your brave article. Indeed, you are not alone in this struggle. In fact, you sre in very good.company. My husband opened a yeshiva in Monsey for just this kind of neshama who is struggling and perhaps has not been able to be in school. Lev Shlomo is aa new, small school with a special approach to chinuch. If you are interested you can contact me through betweencarpools.
    IYH one day soon you will look back and marvel at your strength and courage during this time.
    Wishing you lots of nachas
    LK

    1. Dina Baker Avatar
      Dina Baker

      Hi there – i have a son who is now technically in 12th grade but hasn’t been in yeshiva for a year. he tried going to a local yeshiva a bit in Passaic but it was really for beis medrash boys who’ve already been in EY… he did 9 days in Waterbury and loves Rabbi Kalish but didn’t like the scene in the dorms – he’s a pretty clean guy but is super lost right now – perhaps your husband’s yeshiva would be a good option for him.

      1. Lk Avatar
        Lk

        Hi Dina. Im.sorry youre going through this. Feel free to contact me so.i can put you in touch with the rebbeim in yeshiva. Lisazkram@aol.com

      2. M Avatar
        M

        Hi please email me at shevy @ crossfieldsservives.com
        I might be able to help you with a 12th grade yeshiva

    2. HT Avatar
      HT

      I’m interested to learn more about this yeshivah. Is there dorms? My son is in 12th but not in a good place right now. He checked out Waterbury but didn’t end up going.

      Thank you for the brave mother who posted this. . You’re definitely not alone and please stay strong! You put it in words, all the despair and the hopesso.many mother’s are going through. (In my case, the rabbis are calling, but mostly disapprove what the parents are doing..). You’re a wonderful mother, and your son is so lucky to have your support.
      I would also be grateful if someone can recommend a therapist who does remote sessions and preferably takes insurance.
      Thank you for posting this!!
      Love,
      HT

      1. LK Avatar
        LK

        Hi HT. If.you want to contact me I would be happy to put.you in touch with the yeshiva/rebbeim. lisazkram@aol.com
        Stay strong! Hashem has a plan♡

      2. M Avatar
        M

        Please read comments and you can email me

    3. M Avatar
      M

      Hi there is another yeshiva that just opened in Woodmere u can contact me through here

      1. PM Avatar
        PM

        Hi, I am interested in hearing about the Yeshiva that just opened in Woodmere.

        1. M Avatar
          M

          Can u post ure email address I will contact u

        2. M Avatar
          M

          Please message me at shevy @ crossfiendservices.com

          1. M Avatar
            M

            Crossfieldservices.com
            Sorry

    4. Chaya lien Avatar
      Chaya lien

      I Watched Your Eyes

      I watched your eyes.

      I followed your gaze.

      I saw your face.

      I didn’t look at my son’s retreating back as he walked away, his oversized backpack slung over his shoulders. The backpack that held everything so dear to him, the one that accompanied him wherever he went. I didn’t look at his gray T-shirt, his invisible peyos, his hunched back and shoulders. I didn’t look at the way his entire being seemed to scream, I have to leave. I’m leaving. I don’t belong. I am alone. I am not one of you.

      I didn’t watch his hurried steps, either. Perhaps he was anticipating something better. Something that might finally bring him solace, perhaps even joy. Somewhere he could breathe. Somewhere he could feel good about himself. Somewhere he could simply be himself.

      A place far removed from us. From our home, our community, our religion. From everything we hold dear, everything that has left him so hurt and broken.

      Instead, I watched your face.

      I watched your eyes flicker with disdain. With pain, perhaps? With fear that this same tragedy might one day befall you. I watched you square your shoulders, almost defiantly, with the certainty I once possessed: This will never happen to me.

      Neighbor, I, too, once knew that certainty.

      I did everything right. I believed I was in control of my child’s destiny, that I could determine the path he would take if only I played my cards right. If I sent him to the right yeshivos, to the right bungalow colony. If I befriended the right people, made sure my son befriended the right people, and carefully smoothed every obstacle from the path of my metzuyan.

      But Hashem is the Master Planner. Not I. Not you.

      So the next time you see my broken child leaving my home for a place so far removed from everything you can even imagine, turn around and look at me.

      Not literally, please. I don’t think you could bear to look at the brokenness. At the humility. At the pain in my eyes.

      But look, too, for what exists alongside that pain: the ever-deepening surrender, the steadfast love, and the constant prayer in my heart.

      1. Baila Avatar
        Baila

        Thank you Chaya for sharing this writing. Your words pierced my heart and though you don’t know me, know we are all sisters and carry each other in our hearts. I hope you can feel some of that energy getting sent to you through the painful times. Wishing you strength and resilience one moment at a time.

    5. Aviva Wachtel Avatar
      Aviva Wachtel

      Please can you share more information about the Yeshiva? And who to contact?

      1. Shavy Avatar
        Shavy

        Pls send me ure email address i will send u info

      2. M Avatar
        M

        Pm me at shevy @ crossfieldservices.com

      3. Lisa Kram Avatar
        Lisa Kram

        For info about lev shlomonyou can email me lisazkram @ aol.com. hatzlacha

    6. Tova Avatar
      Tova

      Pls share correct email
      And contact please

  2. Leah Avatar
    Leah

    Oh my. This is so much more common than people realize. And for girls too!! A siblings daughter, a friends daughter… both people I know personally with sweet wonderful girls who are round pegs that don’t fit our square school system. This is so so very validating.

  3. RM Avatar
    RM

    The hardest part of this – is that you never know what’s going to tick the system. Mine is that they don’t like said child’s parents personality – it’s too confident! They want the parents personality to be less, not the child’s! #truestory

  4. Dina Avatar
    Dina

    Oh how I feel you. I’m going through the same thing right now. Except my son has learning challenges and I feel plagued with guilt that maybe I should have tried harder, tried this or that therapy. That I should have researched more, or homeschooled him. That I shouldn’t have listened to this rebbi to this teacher. Why did I trust the “specialized” school I thought was tailored for him… it goes on and on. Will he ever manage in the world and live his life as a frum Jew… so many worries, so many questions. My emunah ebbs and flows from this is how Hashem made him to Hashem, why would You make him like that?
    Sending you hugs!!!

    1. Moma Bear Avatar
      Moma Bear

      Exactly my thoughts, always plagued with guilt. And it’s only gotten harder as my son has gotten older. A cute little 5 yr old who doesn’t learn well in school is nothing in comparison to a 20 yr old who can barely get up by noon and is doing not much all day other than stressing me out…

  5. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Wow! What a powerful article that many parents can probably relate to!
    We each have out struggles tailor made for us by Hashem, and it can be extremely difficult to see the good while going through our challenges.
    The changes in emotions and thoughts are normal, and can be refreshing if we allow ourselves to tap in to whatever are feeling/thinking.
    I can relate since we were ignored a lot my son’s behavior/development issues, hoping he would outgrow them. Instead, we found ourselves with an almost adult son that was unable to function in the yeshiva system. After much heartache and a roller coaster of emotions, we finally got a diagnosis of high functioning ASD. We hope he will be able to get the support he needs and settle down soon, but in the meantime, we have a long, unknown road a head of us.
    Building up our emunah and bitachon has been essential for growing through our challenges
    Stay strong; you got this.

  6. Ella Rosenberg Avatar
    Ella Rosenberg

    You’re incredible
    Thanks for sharing
    May Hashem give you all the strength you need and nachas ,
    Mainly thank you for this perspective and your raw honesty

  7. S.R. Avatar
    S.R.

    Thank you for sharing this. BH we are Blessed with this challenge with our bar mitzvah boy bH. Davening for all these holy souls on this challenging journey.

  8. R Avatar
    R

    Dear Guest mother, thank you for putting my feelings into words… I have been here as well. Right now, I feel like I’m walking a tight rope.. While I would like to remain anonymous as well, please know that there are a few options out there. For the benefit of others- Rabbi Notis has a Yeshiva in Lancaster. And for high functioning ASD boys, there are options in Lakewood. I can also be contacted throughout get Between Carpools.

  9. eg Avatar
    eg

    Wow. Teared up and said a perek of tehillim for all parents and children going through this unimaginably difficult nisayon. Hashem should give you all koach to get through it and a yeshua soon!

  10. Tamar Gordon Avatar
    Tamar Gordon

    Hi, I want to share and if this applies to anyone pls respond and I’ll be in touch. My son had a really hard time in high school but we managed to keep him in yeshiva. On average he went around 3 hours a day. Today he is an elite solider in the IDF in an excellent Charedi unit. If anyone wants more info I’m happy to share his path.
    Also as a high school teacher in a girl’s school I cried reading this but he’s so lucky to have such supportive parents ❤️

  11. Dina Avatar
    Dina

    Been there, done that.
    I BH now have a strapping handsome, healthy, grounded 22-year-old boy now. He put himself back in yeshiva for 3 years in EY because he wanted to, not because he was forced. He retaught himself kriah because he wanted to, not because he was forced…. After 3 years of working.
    He now runs his own business, is doing very well and davening and learning every day. lots of tefillah, tears and siyata dishmaya!!

  12. B Avatar
    B

    I often wonder why we all go through watching our kids suffer through being displaced and unaccepted. One thing i tell myself is that a tzara is given so that we can grow from it and offer chizuk to others. From the overwhelming responses here and the need for this emotion full article I felt such a great connection. The greatest chizuk is the knowledge that someone else is feeling what your feeling and your not alone. Thank you for the chizuk. Hugs to all and our tefilos should be answered for the best.

  13. Cami Avatar
    Cami

    Wow, such a brave mother to post this. While I can’t relate to your exact experience, we all have experiences that resonate with the same feelings. We don’t know if we should have done something different. But there are great people from tanach who raised children who didn’t turn out like they raised them to be. People who judge just don’t know.
    I like to think that I’m being tested on my emunah in times like these. When you can’t control the outcome and you did a fair amount of hishtadlut, you are allowed and should just take a back seat, just show your family love, learn blind compassion for others from this, and put all the rest of your efforts in tefilla!

  14. Original Poster (Anonymous Mom) Avatar
    Original Poster (Anonymous Mom)

    Really appreciate all the people who took the time to leave comments here. From people going through similar but different struggles, people who made it to the other side and can offer perspective, and people offering their support and chizzuk. It means so much to me and I can only imagine to the many silent lurkers who are dealing with this. Thank you ❤️

    1. Just another mom Avatar
      Just another mom

      Wow! Thank you for sharing such real and true words of heart. Your strength and beauty shine through your pain. I cannot speak for this challenge though in growing through my own I’ve learned #1) Guilt is not a jewish thing. Its the yetzer horas way of breaking us and keeping us stuck. If we recognize that no matter what we would have done, Hashem’s plan would still be this, we shake off any feelings of guilt #2) Just as when we carry a child through pregnancy, we do zero for the baby other than being a safe haven and taking care of ourselves. Know that you taking care of yourself and giving your son a loving caring home is all you both need. In recognizing that the same Hashem created and formed him without your help, he continues to do so when you feel so helpless.
      Only Hashem who loves our children more than we do, who sends us hurdles that feel too big to overcome, actually is carrying us through even when we feel as though we were a abandoned by all. Keep finding the strength you never thought you had, IYH you will see the light at the end!

  15. C Avatar
    C

    This article and comments made me cry. I often have responses to the great articles posted here, but this is the first time I’m writing a response. I am in a different stage than the previous commenters. I am not writing as a mother with a teenage child. I am writing as a young married woman, living in EY with two beautiful little babies, supporting a husband in Kollel, who was that teenage child herself . My husband and I both did not succeed in the mainstream system. Our curiosity, authenticity, and demand to understand the truth was not popular in the mainstream schools we attended. Both my husband and I are full of energy and it was celebrated everywhere except in the classroom. To the parents of children on a non mainstream journey; your child is an absolute star! They crave connection and are the most sensitive souls with the most to give. They know how much you love them and that you’ll do anything for them, even if they can’t express it. Your child knows that you want the best for them and when you love them and accept them, there’s room for mistakes. Don’t be so hard on yourself. Rav Meilich Biederman says that often the most challenging child ends up being the most successful child because of all the Tefillos poured into him/her. Don’t under estimate your tefillos and don’t under estimate your love. Be flattered that Hashem entrusted you with such a special neshama – that means Hashem believes you can take care of it like no one else! Looking back, my husband and I both agree that we wouldn’t change our teenage years even one iota. Our journeys helped us develop a real relationship with Hashem that we get to hold onto no matter what we deal with in our lives. Wishing us all lots of Hatzlacha and clarity with fulfilling our holy roles as the mothers of Klal Yisrael, and may we all be zoche to share in the Geulah sheleimah b’karov!

  16. Inspired and davening for you Avatar
    Inspired and davening for you

    Thank you Between Carpools for posting this incredible letter as well as all the moving comments. To the brave mothers and the incredible children. I too was moved to tears. Whether your child is sick, you have been visited by mental illness , shidduchim elude you, you struggle with parnassah – or grapple with a lost sensitive soul in your home – theEmunah and Bitschon- the knowledge that Hashem is with you- and that others struggle too- and you have a community to embrace you – that gives incredible chizuk. Thank you BC and anonymous Mom for the courage to share.

  17. This was me Avatar
    This was me

    I could have written this 10 years ago.
    Stay strong!! I have a son who didn’t go to school past his bar mitzvah. It wasn’t that no one would take him, he just wouldn’t go. There were days that I would imagine a rope hanging from shamayim and holding on to hashem with that rope. Never in my wildest dreams would I imagine my son who is now in his 20’s would be where he is today. Each child that grows up in this generation emotionally and spiritually healthy is a miracle, but some are an open public miracle.
    If I look back and think of what I could have done differently, (and that is very human to do), I would have had more empathy for him…but I was in so much pain and turmoil myself that it was a challenge.
    Just hang in there, and keep davening. and davening and davening. NEVER GIVE UP HOPE ON ANY CHILD.
    The child who didn’t wear tefillin for years, is now the one who comes back late from a shul kiddush, full from food, but makes sure to wash lechem mishnah and bentch.
    Hashem knows all of our and our childrens’ struggles. The more we tune into that, the easier the burden is to hold, or to “let go and let G-d”.

    1. EZ Avatar
      EZ

      I too am experiencing this challenge. This article was very moving and relatable. To the mothers who have been through this and BH saw a yeshua, can you please share what you feel actually helped your son through this challenge. Practical tips along with davening and emuna.

  18. Dana Berlin Avatar

    Dr. Aryeh Berlin is a MASTER of helping children and teens overcome school refusal. What feels completely daunting and overwhelming is completely within his wheelhouse, and he can help! 201.639.4669 *Disclosure: he is my husband.* Certainly call Relief and other mental health referral agencies for references and direction. https://weallaspire.com/blog/what-to-do-when-your-child-refuses-to-go-to-school-an-evidence-based-guide-to-treating-school-refusal/

  19. me too Avatar
    me too

    I love and relate to every word in this post and the thread of comments!

    I have not yet seen anyone mention Kesher Nafshi, an incredible source of info and chizuk, in local groups, live events and Shabbatons, recordings, mentoring, peer validation…so much support- please look into it! It is for any parent with a child struggling — no matter what type or degree of struggle!

  20. Hudi Avatar
    Hudi

    I had a son that hardly went to school and miraculously is now a great kid . What helped me was a tip I got to imagine we lived alone on an island where there are no societal norms and if I would still be so bothered by his behaviors.. this concept helped me accept him for who he was and eventually he came around beyond our wildest dreams. I also want to mention the overwhelming amount of boys that can’t read properly because of tracking and other vision issues. Anyone with a child not making it through the traditional system must rule this out. Lastly the sod haadam courses by Rebbetzin Tukachinsky is said to be a total game changer in dealing with every neshama entrusted to us.

  21. SingleMama Avatar
    SingleMama

    I also have a son that has struggled for years! Spent not tens of of thousands but probably closer to hundreds of thousands on therapies and doctors, chauffeuring to practitioners hours away for months on end etc. bh he’s in 11th grade in a great yeshiva that primarily really works with us but I hear him complain on the weekly about shtissim that they put they foot down on and I want to pull my hair out.

    He is such a good boy bh! He has such a good head on his shoulders and really has amazing priorities bh and the yeshiva is squeezing these boys that are already these type and he’s like why are you trying to change a yeshiva that already has us as the type of bachurim. I have such hakaras hatov but the direction a new director is taking is really concerning me for him and for the future of boys like him. It’s such a shame. Because he could be such a star with a few modifications and let him feel like the star that he is, instead of making him feel like a failure for not managing in an almost unmanageable system for most and how he’s doing so fantastic most of the time and for someone like him it’s beyond. I’m blown away by him on the daily and I tell him but he knows that the yeshiva doesn’t see him that way . He says “they would rather a kid sleep the day away in yeshiva but be there all day every day and look the part than me who actually does and learns and davens and needs a bit of a shortened day sometimes and wants to wear black sneakers” how sad. I’m sad for him and for klal Yisroel

  22. Sk Avatar
    Sk

    Dear Yiddisha mama,
    Your words are the words of so many of us.
    Some of us will see the light eventually.
    Some of us will not.
    The pain you describe is so real.
    And you are a hero every single day.
    Talk kindly to yourself,
    Because Hashem is holding you tight.
    We’re here to serve him and only him through our custom made packages that only he understands.
    He knows us inside out and is creating us into beautiful vessels.
    The anguish is so deep and real, one can only truly understand if you are a fellow in this challenge.
    My heart is with you in this journey,
    May we see the light of ourselves and our children shine, the way hashem sees fit.
    We are here to bring more compassion in this world, more acceptance and more humility.
    With you in your every moment struggle,
    A fellow traveller

  23. Yael Wedeck Avatar
    Yael Wedeck

    Response for between carpools

    Thank you for sharing the struggles, questions and even budding hope with all of us in the community who are where you are or have been there in the past. It is clear from all the comments, practical and emotional support that was offered that your words hit home for so many.

    I believe firmly that every one of these souls has a place, even though the road there can be full of potholes and detours. Just wanted to briefly add another option to this conversation.

    8 years ago, after becoming familiar with the arid landscape of available options for kids who didn’t fit into traditional schools, I co-founded anorganization called Work At It (serving the Metro New York area) Our goal is to meet youth and families where they are and work collaboratively to create a viable plan for their future. This can include alternative schooling plans, strengths discovery, and job readiness and support. Every young person is unique and so put with and plans with each one follows their needs.

    If you would like to learn more, reach out to workatit.org

    Yael Wedeck
    Work At It

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